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	<title>Comments on: Iraq, War, American Foreign Policy, George Bush, Who is John McCain, The Presidential Election, The War on Terror, and Other Assorted Fun</title>
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	<description>Thoughts and Sound of Media Artist and Thinker Matt Searles</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your blog is interesting! 
 
Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blog is interesting! </p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know if there's the political will in the US to really stick around that long. The US domestic communications strategy was one of.. well it wasn't set up for a long term commitment.. The Bush folks get an F for managing expectations.. and it doesn't help that no presidential candidate has put out a clear vision for what the US's roll in the world ought to be. I mean what's the bigger picture of why we should be doing this stuff again? What the hell does "american interest" mean, anyway?

In terms of the psychological and existential challenges of the Middle East and the Muslim world.. my feeling is that there's a certain arrogance to the west that isn't helping things. I mean this in the sense that our definition of modernity is one that has organically evolved out of a certain western tradition... This consciousness of this modernity is filled with all sorts of metaphysical presumptions that we've inherited from our foundations. When I look at the philosophical foundations of India and Asia I see the solutions to many of the problems modernity is not starting to face.

I look at this all in a kind of synthesis of a Nietzschean master slave morality idea, and a kind of Jungian thing... which is to say the modernities presumptions are not cultivating the capacities that are really needed.. so that, in a certain sense, we need things like muslim DNA integrating into the system.

So this I see as a larger psycho-social context underlying the systemic evolution of the situation.

At this point in our story.. I imagine there's two real challenges. #1 If a US president should see the importance of a commitment to the issue of Iraq and the Middle East.. he's got his work cut out for him in terms of how to communicate the importance of this.. why its worth the sacrifice, and all of that. #2 What I think is probably more likely is we will pull out of Iraq.. so that how we interact with the larger situation will have to evolve.. and so what's the implications of all this?

Outside of this I see the US economic situation, and perhaps the world situation, as looking rather bleak because of what's going on with fuel prices... which I see as a long term trend... and I'm not sure how we can innovate out of this situation. 

My fear, in relationship to this, is what sort of a political environment might this give rise to? Particularly if this is a global problem.

Of course, with any luck.. my fears aren't well founded... any who.. my guess is you're prolly a lil more sophisticated on some of these issues then I, judging from your comment and blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s the political will in the US to really stick around that long. The US domestic communications strategy was one of.. well it wasn&#8217;t set up for a long term commitment.. The Bush folks get an F for managing expectations.. and it doesn&#8217;t help that no presidential candidate has put out a clear vision for what the US&#8217;s roll in the world ought to be. I mean what&#8217;s the bigger picture of why we should be doing this stuff again? What the hell does &#8220;american interest&#8221; mean, anyway?</p>
<p>In terms of the psychological and existential challenges of the Middle East and the Muslim world.. my feeling is that there&#8217;s a certain arrogance to the west that isn&#8217;t helping things. I mean this in the sense that our definition of modernity is one that has organically evolved out of a certain western tradition&#8230; This consciousness of this modernity is filled with all sorts of metaphysical presumptions that we&#8217;ve inherited from our foundations. When I look at the philosophical foundations of India and Asia I see the solutions to many of the problems modernity is not starting to face.</p>
<p>I look at this all in a kind of synthesis of a Nietzschean master slave morality idea, and a kind of Jungian thing&#8230; which is to say the modernities presumptions are not cultivating the capacities that are really needed.. so that, in a certain sense, we need things like muslim DNA integrating into the system.</p>
<p>So this I see as a larger psycho-social context underlying the systemic evolution of the situation.</p>
<p>At this point in our story.. I imagine there&#8217;s two real challenges. #1 If a US president should see the importance of a commitment to the issue of Iraq and the Middle East.. he&#8217;s got his work cut out for him in terms of how to communicate the importance of this.. why its worth the sacrifice, and all of that. #2 What I think is probably more likely is we will pull out of Iraq.. so that how we interact with the larger situation will have to evolve.. and so what&#8217;s the implications of all this?</p>
<p>Outside of this I see the US economic situation, and perhaps the world situation, as looking rather bleak because of what&#8217;s going on with fuel prices&#8230; which I see as a long term trend&#8230; and I&#8217;m not sure how we can innovate out of this situation. </p>
<p>My fear, in relationship to this, is what sort of a political environment might this give rise to? Particularly if this is a global problem.</p>
<p>Of course, with any luck.. my fears aren&#8217;t well founded&#8230; any who.. my guess is you&#8217;re prolly a lil more sophisticated on some of these issues then I, judging from your comment and blog.</p>
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		<title>By: TMLutas</title>
		<link>http://mattsearles.com/podcast_blog/2008/06/17/iraq-war-american-foreign-policy-george-bush-who-is-john-mccain-the-presidential-election-the-war-on-terror-and-other-assorted-fun/#comment-1389</link>
		<dc:creator>TMLutas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that any mature examination of Iraq has to take into account two things, our current position in country (which you can get from the Congressionally mandated quarterly reports) and why things are so messed up in the ME in the first place which you can get from a nice book entitled What Went Wrong?: The Clash Between Islam and Modernity in the Middle East by Bernard Lewis. The bottom line is that the muslims used to be top dog. They became self-absorbed in their own conflict, Persian v. Ottoman over who was going to rule the world and left a remnant of christianity who came back and now are on top. 

This is tremendously frustrating for them and psychologically damaging for their societies. Once you see Iraq as an attempt to halt a multi-century slide into madness that's been going on for longer than the existence of the US, you get the proper insight into the stakes of the game. A free, functioning arab society at the religious heart of Islam fixes an awful lot of what ails the muslim world and we're now on a glide path to that happening. We just have to stick around long enough for the voters to vote and improve their local political class to the point where the changes are self-sustaining. That's likely 2-4 more electoral cycles judging from slow learners in E. Europe like my own native Romania.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that any mature examination of Iraq has to take into account two things, our current position in country (which you can get from the Congressionally mandated quarterly reports) and why things are so messed up in the ME in the first place which you can get from a nice book entitled What Went Wrong?: The Clash Between Islam and Modernity in the Middle East by Bernard Lewis. The bottom line is that the muslims used to be top dog. They became self-absorbed in their own conflict, Persian v. Ottoman over who was going to rule the world and left a remnant of christianity who came back and now are on top. </p>
<p>This is tremendously frustrating for them and psychologically damaging for their societies. Once you see Iraq as an attempt to halt a multi-century slide into madness that&#8217;s been going on for longer than the existence of the US, you get the proper insight into the stakes of the game. A free, functioning arab society at the religious heart of Islam fixes an awful lot of what ails the muslim world and we&#8217;re now on a glide path to that happening. We just have to stick around long enough for the voters to vote and improve their local political class to the point where the changes are self-sustaining. That&#8217;s likely 2-4 more electoral cycles judging from slow learners in E. Europe like my own native Romania.</p>
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		<title>By: E-von</title>
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		<dc:creator>E-von</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C'mon, how can you not love this guy? I mean....who else out there on the interwebs ends a philosophical political blog entry with Megadeth?? 

LOL....I think I have a painting that you started back in the JP days that's based on this song....it also features George Washington and references to Lucifer. Can I get an "awesome" from the congregation?

"Kiddo Jive - Awesome!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, how can you not love this guy? I mean&#8230;.who else out there on the interwebs ends a philosophical political blog entry with Megadeth?? </p>
<p>LOL&#8230;.I think I have a painting that you started back in the JP days that&#8217;s based on this song&#8230;.it also features George Washington and references to Lucifer. Can I get an &#8220;awesome&#8221; from the congregation?</p>
<p>&#8220;Kiddo Jive - Awesome!&#8221;</p>
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